Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject: corrupt fruit
Misbehaving non-denominational church elder and his family:
I would like to expose what kind of fruit that the main-stream churches are producing on a daily basis that I have been witnessing and witnessed, in my neighborhood and my family and all around me.And they all believe that they are saved and true Christians.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit(practice) if they are true Christians or not. We cannot mock God.
And the Bible also says to expose the evil deeds of darkness. Yet, they are so busy hiding their misconduct and wicked witnessing.
The story is the part of expose of evil deeds of self claimed "true and saved Christians'" corrupt practice I have spread on the Christian forums on the internet.
Non-denominational church:
There are many Christians attend this kind in my neighborhood. A few years ago, we got new neighbors across from us who moved in. So I introduced myself and welcomed the man of the house. He introduced himself as elder of the church. So I told him that I am a Christian but I don't attend the church because of too much hypocrisy I have been experiencing and I will not have anything to do with the mainstream churches. It seems that he held a grudge about it. They gave us nasty looks when we are outside. Even so, I offered them some plants that over growing to show I am not holding grudge against them just because they are churchgoers.They took everything I offered to them. I love plants so I have all kinds of plants that producing new ones all the time. I have been using them to have a conversation tool by giving them away.
I would be using E for elder and E family for elder family to avoide confusion.
One day, because E family took all my offerings I thought E family is not holding grudge anymore, I asked E when he was outside if he can give me some banana plants that they have that over growing. Those banana plants were the ones I gave former militaly family when they moved in because I had too many of them. In fact many of the plants still in their front yard I gave the military family. But because I have been giving away, I did not enough of my own to spread to other area of garden when I rearranged the garden. Banana plants grow rapidly and you have to dig up every year so it won't over take the garden.So I explained to E about it and he told me it is ok to dig up. I asked him when I can do it. He told me anytime. So next day, I went his house with my son to dig up. Then the wife came out and told me we cannot dig up the banana plants. I told her his husband told me it is ok to do it but I said I have no problem if he changed his mind and we left.
Last year, we had extremely harsh drought and we had to water heavily for our plants to keep them alive. It seems that our unfriendly neighbor did not water enough their plants obviousely, so many of them died. One day, the wife and their two or three foster teenagers came over to us and asked me if I dug up their banana plants or poisoned their banana plants because they all died.
I was just flabbergasted at such a question, knocking at the door and asked if I stole their plants and poisoned their plants with very angry expression. Those teenagers were staring at me with cold looks.
I was just shocked with this vicious behavior and they are church elder family. I tried to talk to E because this woman was just yelling and screaming at me and did not let me talk. When I went his house while they are still out side and she is still yelling and screaming, I tried to talk to the man of the house, but they refused my request saying I have to talk to this angry woman.
About a half hour or so later another woman who is obviously relative of e family, knocked on my door and demanded me to give her two banana plants back to them that I stole. She continued saying that they have evidence I dug up two banana plants. And said if I dont she will report to the police.
That time I could not take it anymore and called the police. They told police that they did not do so such things.
Then I told next door neighbor of this family what E family did to me. And they told me they already know because E family told this neighbor that I stole their banana plants. They informed me which church they attend, so I went to E family's church and informed what E family did to me. The church agreed to have a talk with them. They took long time to get back to me but I kept asked them what ever happened to the talk that they promised to have with E family.
The church talked to me after a long delay that E family did not do such thing and I am making a false accusation. And the church told me they are not going to talk about this case because there is no such thing has happened.
And now E family have another reason to hold grudge against me and our relationship got even worse. However, I know Jesus tells us to love our enemy. So I offered them peace offering saying I forgive E family for what they did to me and gave them my banana plant I protected all this time. I did not have many but I still kept some all these years. The man gave me a strange looks but he still took my offering again. I was very surprised E family never refused anything I give them.
I continued to offer them plants because their flower bed is so empty because they hardly watered when it was so dry. Because they took all my offerings except last ones. And their son's family just moved to next door and they borrowed dolly from me. So I figured it is ok to talk about the false claim they made. I expected for them to apologize to me for their vicious behavior. But I was wrong. They got angry and told me it was long time ago. I told them that they are Christian elder family and this kind should never happen in the first place.
So the E started cursing me saying "I am a man of God. From now on, everything you touch will be ruined." And they called a police on me.
Readers, this is one of trinity believing elder cursing around instead of blessing like Jesus commands us to do. And making fool of themselves involving the whole family.
I am a Christian myself and serving Jesus on a daily bases and have my own mission work for my Lord without organizational churches' help. I take my Christianity seriously and I will not keep silent about the evil deeds are performed, and misrepresenting Jesus with their hypocritical behavior and wicked deeds.
I gave my life to Jesus about 12 years ago and God has blessed me and my family enormously spiritually ever since I became His servant. We have to serve Him truthfully when we professed to be Christians, otherwise we will be cursed instead of blessed.
When we professed to be Christians, we ought to watch what we say and conduct because we are Jesus' representatives. We should not disgrace Jesus with our wicked and hypocritical conduct. _________________ YHWH is my God and Jesus is my Lord
Last edited by joyful on Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:11 am; edited 2 times in total
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Luke 6:27-36 King James Version)
27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Fatheralso is merciful.
We know them by their fruit.
Matthew 12:33
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Expose evil deeds.
Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
Deacon (elder):
1 Timothy 3:8-13
New International Version (NIV)
8 In the same way, deacons[a](A) are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine,(B) and not pursuing dishonest gain. 9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience.(C) 10 They must first be tested;(D) and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.
11 In the same way, the women[b] are to be worthy of respect, not malicious talkers(E) but temperate(F) and trustworthy in everything.
12 A deacon must be faithful to his wife(G) and must manage his children and his household well.(H) 13 Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus. _________________ YHWH is my God and Jesus is my Lord
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