joyful
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:40 pm Post subject: Matt |
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| Mattathias, post: 331290, member: 1661 wrote: |
One of the differences you and I have is preexistence. You believe Jesus literally preexisted with the Father and I believe that Jesus preexisted notionally (in the plan of God, in his mind) with the Father. We were never able to persuade one another on that issue - but you were always nice to me about it. |
This is from Proverb which obviously about Jesus' preexistence:
Proverbs 8:22-31 New International Version (NIV)
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“The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,[a]
before his deeds of old;
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I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
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When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
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before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
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before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
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I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
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when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
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when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
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Then I was constantly[c] at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
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rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.
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YHWH is my God and Jesus is my Lord |
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