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God is God of order but it seems very clear that trinitarians are worshipping the god of confusion. I would like to list up my reasons:
1. Doctrine of trinity: They are pushing this man-made theology to the world saying if you don't believe in trinity, you are not Christian. Jesus is not saying anything like this. Jesus says "for God so love the world that He gave His only Son that who ever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life"(John 3:16). Is He saying anything that we have to believe He is God to be saved? No! He is only saying that we should believe He is Son of God, and Savior of the world, period. It is so simple.
2. They are also spreading the false assurance that as long as you believe in trinity, you are Christian; this is lie! Jesus also says that if you love Him you will keep His commandments (John 14:15). I already established that trinitarians are transgressing Jesus' command of "love your enemy" by killing their enemy. They are supporting and joining the military as a whole. I also would like to add that when you enlist, you have to bow to your government by pleadge of allegience. Now all soldiers have two masters; your government and your god which is serious transgressionn against God (Exodus 20:3).
There are many, many confused messages that trinitains are spreading to the world, and misrepresenting, disgracing God with this kind of hypocrisy.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| joyful wrote: |
| He is only saying that we should believe He is Son of God, and Savior of the world, period. It is so simple. |
May I claim this? I do believe what you say here.
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| Now all soldiers have two masters; your government and your god which is serious transgressionn against God (Exodus 20:3). |
I think most Trinitarian soldiers would disobey the government if they believed God wanted them to; I know I would.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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May I claim this? I do believe what you say here. |
But Jesus is not saying you have to believe He is God to be saved. You trinitarians believe you have to believe Jesus is God to be saved. You trinitarians are preaching against Jesus' own word.
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I think most Trinitarian soldiers would disobey the government if they believed God wanted them to; I know I would. |
No they won't. the military is killing institution. they know what government is expecting of them. You are still talking like teen age brat. You come to my forum and have been insulting my intelligence. who do you think I am? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| joyful wrote: |
| But Jesus is not saying you have to believe He is God to be saved. You trinitarians believe you have to believe Jesus is God to be saved. You trinitarians are preaching against Jesus' own word. |
To me, Son of God = God. I do not mind that you use a different word.
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| No they won't. the military is killing institution. they know what government is expecting of them. You are still talking like teen age brat. You come to my forum and have been insulting my intelligence. who do you think I am? |
Well, I think you are a Conqueror, as described by Socionics. I also think that you are saved, but wrong about a few things. I apologize for disrespecting you - but I compensate for my weak sense of respect by following rules.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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To me, Son of God = God. I do not mind that you use a different word. |
You trinitatrians are blasphemers becasue you do not respect what Jesus says when He clearly states His Father is greater than He.
You trinitarians believe Jesus is equal to God; this is against what Jesus says. I don't need any more evidence of your false doctrine. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| joyful wrote: |
You trinitatrians are blasphemers becasue you do not respect what Jesus says when He clearly states His Father is greater than He.
You trinitarians believe Jesus is equal to God; this is against what Jesus says. I don't need any more evidence of your false doctrine. |
Son of God ∈God, then. That is, God is a group: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the group we like to call God. One group. 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| joyful wrote: |
You trinitatrians are blasphemers becasue you do not respect what Jesus says when He clearly states His Father is greater than He.
You trinitarians believe Jesus is equal to God; this is against what Jesus says. I don't need any more evidence of your false doctrine. |
Son of God ∈God, then. That is, God is a group: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the group we like to call God. One group. |
Is my son equal to me? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| joyful wrote: |
| Is my son equal to me? |
Not unless you want him to be.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| Is my son equal to me? |
Not unless you want him to be. |
We are never equal, I am my children's mother forever. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| We are never equal, I am my children's mother forever. |
I don't think you can have authority over him forever. Genesis 2:24 states that a man must leave his parents. His final loyalty must be to God.
But more to the point, if you wanted to give him your authority, you could.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| joyful wrote: |
| We are never equal, I am my children's mother forever. |
I don't think you can have authority over him forever. Genesis 2:24 states that a man must leave his parents. His final loyalty must be to God.
But more to the point, if you wanted to give him your authority, you could. |
Your anology is way off because you cannot compare God with anything or anyone. He is almighty and Sovereign. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Worshipping god of gods |
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| joyful wrote: |
| Is my son equal to me? |
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| Your anology is way off because you cannot compare God with anything or anyone. He is almighty and Sovereign. |
Isn't this your analogy?
We can compare God to what was made in his image - the analogy will not always be correct, but it will be correct sometimes.
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| God is not anything like us. He is almighty and we are so imperfect. You cannot compare God with human. |
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| God is not anything like us. He is almighty and we are so imperfect. You cannot compare God with human. |
I can compare a human with a peanut. Certainly, God is infinitely superior to us - but he made us like him, in some ways. For example, we are creative, and God is creative. We can compare the way we create with the way he creates - his way will be better, but it will be alike in some ways.
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| God does not have gender like us. He is unique; noone is like Him. He does not procreate like humans. He is spirit being and we are not. He can do anything and we cannot. We have more differences than similarity. |
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| God does not have gender like us. He is unique; noone is like Him. He does not procreate like humans. He is spirit being and we are not. He can do anything and we cannot. We have more differences than similarity. |
It doesn't matter - if there is any similarity at all, we can make a comparison. Even if there is no similarity, we can figure things out by contrast.
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| God does not have gender like us. He is unique; noone is like Him. He does not procreate like humans. He is spirit being and we are not. He can do anything and we cannot. We have more differences than similarity. |
It doesn't matter - if there is any similarity at all, we can make a comparison. Even if there is no similarity, we can figure things out by contrast. |
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